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C: I have to first move my players, then, approve my changes. If I told them to move, they should move! Must be taking hints from Vista's User Account Control.

GJ said about 8 hours later

Dude, your point B is the same as point C. So, basically, you dislike the slick lineup setup that yahoo had. Tough noodles.

Espn's smack commenting, live scoring, player info dialogs, and score board all beat the crap out of yahoo. As painful as you make the lineup change tool out to be, it's not that bad.

Finally....ESPN makes score corrections, something Yahoo doesn't do. In a close game (we had two this week) that could mean the difference in a win versus a loss.

Still, I'd love to hear from everyone else on this subject. What do you think of ESPN so far?
Geoff said about 13 hours later

B is not the same as C......C is a criticism of the current ESPN system. The system wouldn't be so bad, if it didn't require an extra, unnecessary step.

Point A, being the most critical as I use Safari at home on my Mac. I don't use Firefox on my mac because it is grossly slow.

So yes, the lineup change tool does blow.

Lastly, I find it a bit more difficult to interpret some of the data vs yahoo on the scoreboard. I'm sure the more I see the system, I will get used to it, but I think their is some poor GUI going on in some areas (other areas are very good).

As for live scoring...I don't sit by my computer and watch my fantasy score as the games progress. Not as important to me personally.

I wasn't aware Yahoo didn't make score corrections. So you're saying if Yahoo screwed up a score, they just left it screwed up? Perhaps this is why I lost the finals to Marc. Obviously it wasn't a result of Brady...thats for sure. :)
GJ said about 14 hours later

Correct. Yahoo does not make much in the way of score corrections--while this hasn't bit us in football that I know of, it has bitten us in hockey several times, and actually made the difference in a playoff game a few years b
Point A: There are lots of web apps out there that don't like certain browers. Most are IE-specific, some are firefox-specific. Yeah, it sucks that it doesn't work on Safari. However, you're the first to make this complaint, so for now I'm not considering it a major suckage point.

Point C: Almost all websites today still use forms with submit buttons. Yahoo doesn't. ESPN, Fanball, and pretty much every other fantasy football site does. Strangely, Yahoo isn't the market leader in fantasy football. I'm guessing they don't get many complaints about their lineup tools. Yes, you like Yahoo's system. Guess what? I like ESPNs...because I CAN USE IT IN A SMALL WINDOW. Try dragging and dropping when the window can't show you the whole lineup...some of us like to click on the player to replace, then scroll down to the list of players and play around with who to sub in. It's a matter of personal preference, and again, so far, you're the only complainer. This isn't a bad design...it's a different design--one that likely suits their subscribes to a large degree. Yahoo caters to a more casual player, so their setup fits their site well. One isn't just naturally better than the other, in my opinion.

Point B: Please rephrase. I don't see how this isn't covered above, so elucidate me.

Point D: interpretation of data. Again, Yahoo caters to a more casual crowd. I think you'll learn to appreciate ESPN's info.

Point E: Live scoring is fun for some people, not for others. It's a lot more fun when it's free. Yahoo charges $10 for that privilege.

Geoff said about 23 hours later

I'm just pissed I lost to dad 98-90.
GJ said 1 day later

Yep, and that game cost me the win in my other league. :(